Why are all low level weapons added so bad?

With the new Guppies weapon i hoped for one at least decent weapon that could deal a decent amount of damage, but here the damage again is 55 average (if guppies and all bubbles hit). Leveling this weapon up is also a pain (if you will ever be able to use this weapon before you died). Can't test the other weapon as i am not level 75, but i assume this is a weapon that deals like 80 - 120 damage.

Why are all weapons below level 30 added so bad? With the only exception of moons -> Orbitals and Sniper all other weapons kinda... "suck". When will low levels finally get an opportunity to deal some decent damage? Or what is your opinion? Do you think all low level weapons are perfectly balanced?

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who cares about it new weapons are alaways new stuff added and thats good division does 70 with few crits don't know exactly i think 50 without any

 

UPDATE:it does 60 without crits just to let you know better

 

Because too many people want 5723895723895123561825628 rewards for high level unlocks. In my opinion, damage should vary to keep some variation going on, but this is one tough thing to balance. Best idea is just to scramble OP weapons and bad weapons around so low levels get a chance as well.

 

That's the issue this game has: Lower levels can't compete with higher ones, even with all the supposed "nerfs". Even though I'm lvl 73, I stopped because it isn't fun anymore. You either crush a low level or get crushed by a lvl 100. If this annoys you enough, I suggest you do the same.

 

Trying to balance a game like this is like trying to balance a bowling ball on a pin.

 

you cant really balance a pay to win game (weapon packs)

 

did not know that there werent wep packs in steam vers

 

then get the steam version

 

There should be one... in my opinion... at least one that makes the start a bit easier. Maybe some Deluxe membership... my opinion.

 

ha nice one

 

to balance that game kyle just need to put some OP weaps in low lvls and some OP ones in high lvls as well....that would make everybody happy i guess,and keep in mind that for kyle prestige lvls are "bonus" lvls so we can't pretend he will make amazing prestige weapons if he will made some.BTW that putting good weaps for low lvls is way more important than what you think cause once i played with a friend that was way lower lvl than me but he won several times cause he had Synclets.with that i mean that adding just 2 op weaps for low lvls can change dynamics of SSl cause with just synclets and napalm he beated a lvl 90 +,imagine if there was like 5 op weaps as low lvl? i think lvl gap will still stand in ssl but it would be way weaker

 

Didn't know needler and sniper was weak? i know needler does more than all the prestige weapons. Sniper is way better than black hole or XXL spotter. I think low levels are the dominate force beside practice.

 

i m agree low lvls have good weaps another 3 OP weaps for low lvls and lvl gap will be very small.
ps:sniper isn't way better than black hole and spotter xxl xD but yhea it's very strong,also some new weaps like quick sand and synclets are fixing lvl gap

 

I think your on the opposite side of fixing level gap. The lower levels shouldn't be able to kill people 25+ there level with only a lucky shot (2x crit) makes it very hard to judge peoples skills with so many luck factors.

 

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Wow rum wrong 3 times in a row. Strike out. Obviously weapons and levels are unbalenced, and luck is a huge factor. You really can't tell tho unless you pay attention.

 

yeah but the level 25+ should have a super easy time killing the low levels. the judging people's skill is pretty hard to do when the gap is huge as hell

 

I agree that the skill or new rank system is hard to judge obviously higher levels have more chance to get pinger flood rather than a level 30 without mini pinger, but it's also a disadvantage to have every weapon unlocked pinyata pinger sparkler... so many more... the way the game is set up atm it gives you an equal amount to get any weapon avalible, which for me is alota junk weps, you see where this is going i hope. weps are unbalanced and wep choices are even more unbalanced.

 

Just to let everyone know, Kyle will never add anything in ShellShock Live for Steam that cost real money, because the page about the game says Non-Evil Developer, you get everything from the start, you just have to play to get everything.

 

You can never be sure on this because PAYDAY 2 devs clearly stated that there was going to be no microtransactions prior to its release but have betrayed the players and made a major P2W update few weeks ago. The game was very successful and brought so much profit but the devs were greedy.

kChamp's trustworthiness at this point is 50:50 anyways so.

 

If by Deluxe, you mean payment, I think SSL was made to be a Play to Win game, not Pay to Win.

PS, adding deluxe weapons that need to be payed for would tilt the game in the direction of the players that can get it. Since not all people may be able to get it, SSL Devs probably wouldn't do it because it wouldn't be fair. (In case your wondering, making the deluxe pack free wouldn't solve anything either. It would just add a few new weapons that could be fun, but I think it's better to slowly implement new weapons instead of throwing them into the game. Also, isn't the level range of the players chosen by the host? Just set it to 10 so there won't be much of a difference between you and the people you're playing with