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lol........ HUGE tournament bug

Discussion in 'Gameplay Bugs' started by kibbles, May 3, 2016.

  1. kibbles

    kibbles Private E-2 (3) Member

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    this is the biggest steaming pile ever. i was in a tournament with some guy. i beat his ass, he moved on while i'm kicked out? okay this is what happened.

    we were battling in the tournament. i was whipping him like a dog. i kinda messed up a couple of turns. he had like 20 hp, i had like 50. we fire. i kill him, then his shot kills me like 4 seconds later. he moves on to the next round while i'm kicked out of the tournament? HORSE SHIT!!! i'll assume this isn't intentional so i'm not too worried about it, but it was a crap moment.

    what makes it worse is that i'm guessing he moved on instead of me because he did more damage. that is because he happen to have less armor than i did. meaning the most damage i could do to him would have always been less than he can do to me. meaning i would always lose in a draw?
     
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    GooodHerb Specialist (6) Member

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    Going to assume that tournament will let the person with highest damage keep playing, so if he dealt more damage than you, he moves on (if he had less armor than you, basically). It doesn't matter who dies first if both die. I played a guy and we both died, but since I dealt more damage than him, I was moved up (even though he killed me first). So you're saying that you can't possibly deal more damage than him? I agree, that's kind of stupid. I think kChamp should make it who does the most avg dmg/attack, that way if you are doing more dmg on average you win if both tanks die
     
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    MeowrPower Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    The thing with this is if both people have the same armor, you should have the same average cause you both did the same damage in the same amount of turns.
    Then that means whoever has the lower armor wins every time cause they would have had to do more average damage o.o
     
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    Holy2334 Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    To be fair about the whole situation, the people with lower armor are already put at a disadvantage to the ones with full armor, so being able to beat them above those odds should get you to move on.
     
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    Awesume Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    I think it should be a rematch no matter how much armor you have if you both die.
     
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    Holy2334 Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    No. Especially for the sake of time.
     
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    referee11 First Lieutenant (16) Member

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    Not a rematch, a part-rematch. Both players are brought back up to 50 HP. If they both die, this process continues until someone doesn't die.
     
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    MeowrPower Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    Best solution.
    Marksman tournament....
     
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    Cleopatra Sergeant Major (12) Member

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    Its seems random who moves on when both dies in a tournament.
    Ive seen more than one time that even i get mvp and even gets the kill first the other guy moves on.
    So again Kyle have a job to do Witch he most likely not gonna do...
     
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    GooodHerb Specialist (6) Member

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    Average damage as in average damage per attack. Like, if you hit 3 nukes, and one crits, the avg damage is 400/3 dmg. This only works as a tiebreaker obviously.

    Wait I see what you mean... then you can take the highest damage attack and that person wins. Sorry I didn't think about the fact that you have to do the same avg damage xD
     
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    Batgirl Lieutenant Colonel (19) Member

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    Penalty shots on who ever misses out of 5 targets (marksmen style at round 10). If still tied sudden death on whoever misses first
     
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    kibbles Private E-2 (3) Member

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    or just move on whoever is higher lvl. if same level, whoever has higher skill rating. the best player needs to move on. not a pity party for the lower level player who may or may not have gotten lucky. as long as it's a draw, of course.

    tournaments are supposed to be for big boys. not for feeling sorry for each other. if you want to win battles, you have to play ruthlessly. if you are lvl 3 joining a tournament, you need to get rekt. the final battle of the tournament needs to be not just a contest of skill, but also comparing barrel sizes.
     
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    I don't think that's a good idea. Whoever is better in that game should move on, not whoever has played longer/ possibly "boosted" their skill.
     
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    kibbles Private E-2 (3) Member

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    winning with less armor doesn't make you better. i've been in one battle where someone lower level than me got weapons like napalm, needler, a couple diggers, etc. while i was left with crap like bouncy ball, breaker, shot, one bounce. all he had to do was dig me twice, close the gap between us and then hit me with close range napalms and needlers. how is that better? and yes, his aim was spot on no matter what i did, but i too was skilled enough to hit him every turn too. i just had horse shit for weps and couldn't do jack about it since items were turned off.
     
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    GooodHerb Specialist (6) Member

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    That's part of the game. Sometimes you get terrible weapons. sometimes you get great ones.
     
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    kibbles Private E-2 (3) Member

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    what you stated is basic knowledge, and i'm sure everyone on the forums know. i'm saying it's more likely that a lower level player who manages a draw just got a lucky weapon set than a higher level player to be more noob than the lower level player. it should be measured by one or more things.

    1. the higher level player moves on in a draw.
    2. the player with more played hours moves on in a draw.
    3. the player with higher skill rating moves on in a draw.

    certainly not the player who just happens to have less armor and better weapons that round. it should be that the higher level, more hours played, or higher skill rating players have the honor and privilege to move on from the draw. especially in something as grand as a tournament.
     
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    Cool, but I'm saying this is part of the game. You should never base winning on level, hours played, or skill level, as those things are usually not a true representation of how good the player is. I once looked at the top players by skill, and I have never even heard of the number two or three players, which means they probably boosted to those spots. If you instead make another round of some sort (like the marksman round meowr and someone else mentioned), then that is a measure of skill, and therefore makes a lot more sense.
     
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    kibbles Private E-2 (3) Member

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    i agree with you that another round would be better, but it would be a lot more difficult to implement into the game. i also implied that the 3 things i stated aren't accurate, but it would be a lot easier and more practical.
     
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    GooodHerb Specialist (6) Member

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    Dunno how that was implied, but easier is not always better. It would not be very hard to implement any of these suggestions. I would assume it takes no more than a few hours to implement any of these.
     
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    Awesume Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    there is one easy solution is take out "All Shot."
     
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    GooodHerb Specialist (6) Member

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    Whoa man what if someone puts 200hp and you kill your opponent in 1 hit. Then they don't even get to try.
     
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    Awesume Command Sergeant Major (13) Member

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    Thats the way I like it. ;)
     
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    referee11 First Lieutenant (16) Member

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    What. kChamp is a professional developer. He can probably figure it out, man. Besides, he never even comes on the forums here, even though he should. It's disappointing. Don't underestimate him man.
     
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    kibbles Private E-2 (3) Member

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    "what you stated is basic knowledge, and i'm sure everyone on the forums know. i'm saying it's more likely that a lower level player who manages a draw just got a lucky weapon set than a higher level player to be more noob than the lower level player. it should be measured by one or more things."
     
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    referee11 First Lieutenant (16) Member

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    And again, this is part of the game. Randomness is fundamentally put into the game. That's why I'm fine with the current random system: It's just as random as the game. The gameplay and decision-making go hand-in-hand. Besides, you shouldn't disparage low levels if they win because they get a good weapon from a box. Most times, they need that weapon to even hang around with high levels.
     
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